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No.24299 View View Original Report
Reminder: Jiren was so strong he took over Android 17 while he was FUCKING ERASED and forced that faggot to wish back JIREN into existence. Because of his ability to influence and practically take over the minds of people WHILE HE IS ERASED makes him possibly more powerful than Grand Priest and Zeno themselves.
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No.24295 View View Original Report
To understand Jiren's full power, one must first understand the unbelievable gap between his Limit Break and his ordinary self.

When Jiren is introduced, he makes quick work of SSBKK, a U7 Spirit Bomb, among other things. At this point Whis already says Jiren surpasses the level of the GoD. I need to point out here that you CANNOT be about the level of a GoD if there are GoD's stronger than you. The whole statement wouldn't make sense. So Jiren is stronger than EVERY GoD, even Beerus. But this was implied already when Belmod, who was called stronger than Beerus, was stated weaker than Jiren.

We also see Jiren shrug off SSBKK Goku and SSBE Vegeta in a 2v1, literally being on the advantage the whole time. SSBE Vegeta was capable of beating GoD Toppo, who is stated to be "no different from a regular GoD". Even if you want to argue that he's the weakest of the GoDs, he is still definitely on their level. Since Vegeta beat him, that means both Goku and Vegeta are on that level. So Jiren was winning against BOTH of these at the same time. He was effectively fending off two Gods of Destruction simultaneously. Now, here's the thing. This whole time Jiren is holding back his full power. Him being above the GoD level, beating GoD-level opponents, all of this happened while his ki was suppressed.
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No.24292 View View Original Report
The thing that sets Jiren apart from all other antagonists is you CANNOT beat him no matter what you do. In a competition of pure strength, you are FUCKED, because this man has strength surpassing the GoDs. You are NOT going to overpower him. So what, you rely on your martial arts prowess to close the gap? NOPE. He'll just up the ante and outspeed you, completely nullifying every technique you have and matching--surpassing you--blow for blow. Okay, fuck it, it's not all about technique and raw power, right? You can just channel all your energy into an attack that far surpasses what you'd be able to do with physical blows. Oh, but look, he TANKED it. GLARED at it, stopped it in its tracks, and took NO damage. Okay, this is getting FUCKING ridiculous, so let's just go for a gimmick power that we've crafted for just such an occasion, something that defies conventional limitations of pure power output. He can't do anything if he's frozen in time, right? Well, yes, but remember the INCREDIBLE strength I mentioned earlier? Yeah, he's so fucking strong he can CRUSH TIME ITSELF just by gripping hard enough, so FUCK your pitiful gimmicks. That's it. Fuck this. It's time to call upon MC powers and pull out not one, but TWO asspull transformations that are stated to be able to defeat ANYONE. Yeah, it's a little underhanded and cheap, but now victory is assured! Except NO it's FUCKING NOT, and Jiren just OVERPOWERS the transformation by simply WILLING HIMSELF TO BECOME STRONGER.

That's it. DONE. There is NOTHING you can do. You better PRAY that if you ever come face to face with Jiren on the battlefield, it's during some stupid minigame that has ring-out rules, because otherwise you are FUCKED.
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No.23650 View View Original Report
My prose is flawless.
We can see what happens to anyone without plot armor who dares to face Jiren. Hit is the perfect example. He was dealt with swiftly and mercilessly. Ringed out after a couple of blows. The blinding contrast can be denoted when Jiren has the base saiyans beaten and barely conscious at his feet. He just toys with them instead of ringing them out.
This is when the nuances and the endless possibilities for philosophical debate begin. One can argue that this is just because the looming impossibility of U7 to lose, which is a completely valid point. One can also object that Jiren is merely testing the limits and motivations of this seemingly alien philosophy to him. Where do they get their insane motivation? They are powerless against him and they know it, yet they continue to fight. Are they mentally ill? Are they in shock? And so he keeps pushing them in order to find out.
Truly a Shakespearean character indeed.
From now on, the peerless feats of this character just keep piling up. With each passing episode, he keeps surprising and enthralling the audience with his deep one-liners delivered by a 11/10 voice actor. His aura is captivating and gorgeous.
Characters throw themselves at him in a 3 to 1 handicap, and this man just brushes them off like there are, as himself said "impudent gnats". Mere insects, in layman terms, for the linguistically stunted out there.
This is where his sympathizers get their main arsenal. These unprecedented feats will remain relevant for years to come. As this character will NOT be surpassed anytime soon. For example one-shotting 3 GoD-tier opponents with a mere burst of his aura alone. Incredible, isn't it?
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No.24289 View View Original Report
How do you think the Broly movie would've changed with Jiren in it?
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No.19066 View View Original Report
I feel like a huge reason people misunderstand Jiren's characterization and subsequently dismiss it as "bland", "boring", and "generic" is that they don't recognize the meticulously-crafted nuances that give him form. This isn't an insult; newcomers--also known as "casuals" to the more uncouth individuals--are unfamiliar with shonen tropes, and only regurgitate what they perceive as ultimate truths as a result of blind hearsay. Again, this is not meant as an insult: ignorance in and of itself is not an imperfection. It is only when that ignorance germinates and blossoms into WILLFUL ignorance that it becomes detrimental to one's continued existence as a worthwhile member of humanity.

Jiren the Gray transcends the quintessential tropes of a shonen character who lost someone important to him/her and seeks to atone and rise above this tragedy. He does not cleave to his deceased master's teachings as if they are gospel merely because he was unable to safe him; he instead crafted his own ideals, virtues, and motivations in the way he saw as most advantageous in regards to accomplishing his ultimate goal: to utterly, WITHOUT FAIL, espouse his master's teachings. Jiren is not beholden to Gicchin's viewpoints or personal, individual ideals: he instead recognizes that his fallen master would want him to walk his own path, regardless of the possible and probable contradicting vectors their respective moral codes could cross.

This, more than anything else, cements Jiren as his own character--indeed, his own man. He pulled himself up by his bootstraps, using his beloved master's demise not as a crutch, but as a singular motivation to reinforce HIS OWN beliefs, HIS OWN ways of life, while at the same time deftly weaving Gicchin's persona into his own mode of existence.

Jiren is more than a character in a legendarily-influential shonen story that will never be surpassed. He is an ideal. A belief. A way of life.

He is the summit.
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No.24287 View View Original Report
Don't post on my board again you little RAT.
>heh look I bumped my moeshit threads!
You are a BROWN MOESHITTING NIGGER.