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Chud Fri 09 Oct 2026 20:15:46 No.41604 View View Original Report

Quoted By: >>41606

>Obligatory Leenux thread
I've been using Linux Mint (Not LMDE unfortunately. Call me retarded but I didn't know any better at the time) and I want to switch to something better. By that I mean something that's lighter on memory and just works, don't care about updating as I do it anyway. I'm choosing between:
>Devuan (Doesn't have soystemd and is based of something I know really well)
<Artix (For trying something new. Cons are that I don't know shit about Arch so I don't know how to install anything. Also the Arch repos are compromised afaik)
Which one should I choose? You can suggest another distro to me if you'd like

Chud Fri 09 Oct 2026 20:32:09 No.41605 Report

Quoted By: >>41610

What are you using your computer for?

Chud Fri 09 Oct 2026 20:32:52 No.41606 Report

Quoted By: >>41610

>>41604
do you have 4gb of RAM? OS ram overhead is basically snca with 8gb or more
Just Werks and non-systemd are mutually exclusive. There's too much shit tying into soystemd for that

Chud Fri 09 Oct 2026 20:36:42 No.41610 Report

Quoted By: >>41611

>>41605
Usually normie shit. I watch videos, post here, make music and art, and use Librewolf and Mullvad.
>>41606
I have 16 gigs. Still, I want MORE performance.
>Just Werks and non-systemd are mutually exclusive. There's too much shit tying into soystemd for that
Can you explain that? I can debug shit well enough (googling and, if things are quiet on the forum front, ChatBBC). I just don't like using a (((Ubuntu))) derivative.

Chud Fri 09 Oct 2026 20:42:23 No.41611 Report

Quoted By: >>41614

>>41610
>MORE performance
80% of your idle used RAM is preloaded dynamic libraries the system uses across multiple programs, it's le good thing, and also means processes can take lower working set memory on their own. The other major memory hog on idle is your desktop shell, so switching to LxQt will drop RAM usage
Login requires a systemd component on a lot of display managers. You'll need greetd or relying on elogind retardation. Lots of software ships with the assumption systemd is the init, or only gets documented with systemd. Chrome won't even do tab sandboxing without dbus, another component commonly shit on as a memory toaster (Though it's only loaded once, thankfully)

Chud Fri 09 Oct 2026 20:51:17 No.41613 Report

Quoted By: >>41614

>samefag
Performance is usually optimized on the basis of actual system response.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Frequently_asked_questions#Why_is_Arch_using_all_my_RAM?
Usually, modern OSes (all of them) make the tradeoff to stuff precomputed things in your unused RAM on purpose. This reduces necessary disk I/O, and makes the system waste less CPU. So it's more responsive and power efficient as a result. It may also dynamically -o3 code paths that're constantly hit as a caching strategy. Linux manages memory automatically and will compress and fold things down before thinking about swapping (I have never swapped enough to feel it on my 16gb RAM system that often has tons of crap running. For that matter I haven't swapped too much on WINDOWS)

Chud Fri 09 Oct 2026 20:53:02 No.41614 Report

Quoted By: >>41615

>>41611
>>41613
Interesting. Thanks for that. I am still looking for no systemd doebeit

Chud Fri 09 Oct 2026 20:54:06 No.41615 Report

Quoted By: >>41616

>>41614
Depends on how you want to manage system services, drivers and other activity.
>what the fuck is a service
If you need to ask that you're in too deep tbh.

Chud Fri 09 Oct 2026 20:55:53 No.41616 Report

Quoted By: >>41618 >>41619

>>41615
>Services
Like active apps or something?
What OS would you recommend for me then?

Chud Fri 09 Oct 2026 20:57:13 No.41617 Report

Quoted By: >>41620

OpenRC is the Gentoo classic and inspired by the daemon management on FreeBSD. You use .rc scripts instead of systemd inf style unit files.
dinit is basically just the launchd parts of systemd without logind or whatever the fuck. A lot of the complaints about systemd have to do with other utilities calling themselves systemd (Like fucking systemd-boot, which wasn't even called systemd until those retards moved it into the systemd git server)

Chud Fri 09 Oct 2026 20:57:48 No.41618 Report

Quoted By: >>41620

>>41616
No, lower level. Things like your WiFi driver and audio API are often implemented as service daemons

Chud Fri 09 Oct 2026 21:03:45 No.41619 Report

Quoted By: >>41620

>>41616
As far as distros, it's a matter of package release schedules and package manager configuration. Everything else is just defaults. Pretty much all Linuxes use the same structure besides a few oddballs. You don't care about getting updates now? Debian 13. You really care about updates now (Or hate the release cycle issues)? Arch. You want updates now and avx2 compiled packages? CachyOS. Or just add the cachy repos to an arch install kek. You want BSD because you're an oldfag? Gentoo

Chud Fri 09 Oct 2026 21:08:10 No.41620 Report

Quoted By: >>41639

>>41617
>OpenRC
I intended to use that one anyway. Being inspired on FreeBSD makes it a gemerald in my opinion
>dinit
So it's just less retarded soystemd?
>>41618
Makes sense. Thanks for explaining it for me!
>>41619
>You don't care about getting updates now? Debian 13.
I'm a lazy nigger so that's why I like it. I used it before and it's a gem.
>You really care about updates now (Or hate the release cycle issues)? Arch.
I really don't.
>avx2
Don't know what that is.
>Gentoo
I have heard a lot about it on here. Is it good or is it a broken mess like Arch? I'm willing to try it as a live USB to see if I like it. Also I like oldfaggotry, so it may be something for me.

Chud Fri 09 Oct 2026 21:20:52 No.41623 Report

Arch infra seems like it's riding high, these days. Valve is also funding a bunch of shit that will have the most application for Arch, because SteamOS. I'm running Cachy and it actually has an updated installer, feels better, snappier. Wouldn't come back to Mint or anything Ubuntu-based. Shit feels halfway like abandonware.

Chud Sat 10 Oct 2026 02:33:47 No.41639 Report

>>41620
>is it broken
Depends on what you mean by broken. Flickerfree boot requires some poking but honestly I haven't managed to get fucking GOP handoff on Limine Bootloader at all. The biggest issue is you'll need to rebuild all your updates on the system unless you use binary packs. Hope you brought a charger!

Chud Sat 10 Oct 2026 10:09:19 No.41666 Report

I suggest Artix with dinit/OpenRC since those are the most stable inits. Runit and S6 also have potential to be stable, but they require a bit of tinkering.

Also, it's the AUR that's compromised, not the Arch repos themselves. The Arch repos aren't even enabled in Artix by default; Artix uses its own repos, so you have to manually enable Arch repos if you wanna pull packages from them, although you risk installing systemd-dependent packages

Chud Sat 10 Oct 2026 10:10:02 No.41667 Report

Quoted By: >>41688

Devuan only has sysvinit as its init system; OpenRC and runit are just wrappers for sysvinit in there, so I suggest against using Devuan.

Chud Sat 10 Oct 2026 10:42:47 No.41675 Report

Quoted By: >>41688

What's with this sperggotry over Linux Mint vs LMDE? Why does it matter so much? Why is LMDE better than Linux Mint? It shouldn't be too different from each other the only real difference is how older/newer they are from each other

Chud Sat 10 Oct 2026 13:31:17 No.41688 Report

>>41675
>Why is LMDE better than Linux Mint?
Because Linux Mint is based off (((Ubuntu))) and Canonical puts bloatware and other dumb shit into the OS. LMDE is based off of Debian.
>>41667
I might consider either switching to Debian with XFCE or LMDE. I'm not too convinced of soystemd-less OSes for now (unless there are good Debian-based ones you can recommend)

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