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>From: Terence <terence.john@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: debian-niggers and debian-lgbt projects.
>To: Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@gmail.com>
>Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
>No, starting any Debian linked group (i.e. using Debian any form) based on
>personal differentiation is totally unacceptable. To do so is to encourage
>division between a world wide, extremely diverse group of users of our
>computer operating system, for racial, ethnic, age, sexual, or or any other
>attribute. The internet is neutral, although it is used for all sorts of
>divisive and offensive uses, and we can keep it so in the Debian world of
>ours if we wish.
>
>In all my years (decades now) use of Debian I have communicated all over
>the world with Debian users, and have not cared or needed to know anything
>more than that I was dealing with another Debian enthusiast.
>
>Perhaps it would be interesting to hear the original poster's views on
>whether proposals to form a "debian-gay-beaters", "debian-hetrosexuals" or
>a "debian-white-supremacists" group would meet with his/her/it's approval.
>
>I am against all attempts to promote division between people, either
>collectively or individually, even down to deploring the antagonism (from
>mild to violent) between supporters of different sports teams. If they were
>really sports enthusiasts they would applaud good play, even when it was
>not to their own teams advantage.
>
>To start, or accept, special interests groups attached to the name "Debian"
>in any form is to be resisted by all means possible.
>
>On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 at 16:12, Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 6:02=E2=80=AFPM Paul M Foster <paulf@quillandmouse.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 06:47:10PM +0000, jmax wrote:
>>>
>>> > Dear Brothers and Sisters:
>>> >
>>> > I am interested in starting some debian projects. As a homosexual,
>>> > debian-using, black, I am surprised at the low numbers of black and/or
>>> LGBT
>>> > members of the debian community. I believe that starting
>>> debian-niggers, and
>>> > debian-gay or debian-lgbt projects would help to increase participation of
>>> > the respective parties in the debian community.
>>>
>>> I'm not your brother or sister, and not part of your demographic, and I
>>> really don't care whether you do or don't start a SIG on black or LGBT
>>> Debian interests.
>>>
>>> However, the word "nigger" is plainly offensive. It's been offensive for
>>> decades, and most recently, whites have been entirely prohibited from
>>> using the word, upon pain of death, while blacks readily use it with
>>> impunity.
>>>
>>> If you're going to start a SIG for black/LGBT Debianistas, I'd politely
>>> request you do so without resorting to inflammatory language. I imagine
>>> the
>>> term "debian-blacks" would serve just as well without aggravating an
>>> already
>>> strongly divided world.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah I'd probably be ok with debian-blacks, but someone will probably
>> complain. I think it could be good for the community if it did come true.
>>
>>
>>> In fact, I suspect the less we pay attention to skin color, the better off
>>> we all will be.
>>>
>>
>> Sadly we have no choice on this these days. We probably also have to
>> create debian-yellows now, and while we're at it, debian-rainbow or
>> debian-pride might be more politically correct.
>>
>> It's difficult to come up with names sometimes, but I'm sure we're up to
>> the job.
