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HOW IS THIS SITE LEGAL!1!1!!!

Chud Tue 28 Mar 2023 02:47:51 No.38970 View View Original Report

How is it legal for you to make personal army requests to target people? Why does soyjak.party allow it, when 4chan bans it???

Chud Tue 28 Mar 2023 03:05:38 No.38975 Report

Quoted By: >>38977 >>39010 >>39014 >>39020 >>39283

it's very simply banned on 4chan because moot got sick of dealing with the legal repercussions. it's not banned on the sharty or kiwi farms because kuz and null don't care and just deal with the repercussions as they come. pretty sure it almost killed null over the past year dealing with the legal fallout of the farms trolling keffals, so you can't really blame moot for banning it.

ironically though, the current owner of 4chan, hiroyuki who moot sold the site to used to own 2channel; where raids were allowed. in fact hiroyuki became pretty famous in japan because they have really strict laws there about besmirching peoples honor. at one point he had lost something like 50+ court cases from people getting raided and trolled by 2channel. he just refused to pay any of the fines or outlaw trolling / raiding on his site. i think japan also has a thing where you can't go to jail just for refusing to pay court cases you lost so he lives in a weird social limbo situation where he owes millions of dollars but just keeps all his money in off shore banks and lives a normal life in japan.

i'm assuming he didn't change the rule on 4chan to allow raids after he took over because 1) he doesn't really care and 2) was told by moot (and the community more or less) to be as hands off as possible with the site, which in this case means not changing a rule moot made years ago about banning raids.

Chud Tue 28 Mar 2023 05:47:21 No.38977 Report

>>38975
Nice post *kisses you on the cheek but kinda close to the lips*

Chud Tue 28 Mar 2023 06:54:51 No.38983 Report

>>38970
Russians...

Chud Wed 29 Mar 2023 03:43:59 No.39010 Report

Quoted By: >>39032 >>39433

>>38975
fI'll be honest with you. It's probably only a matter of time before kiwifarms goes down. Keffal's campaign felt really half assed to me, and it still nearly took the site down. And she wasn't some supernotable streamer either.

Kiwifarms has been dancing on the edge of legality for a decade and its only because it's a small site and because they only target obscure retards, that its got away with it.

There is content on the site that is probably law breaking. You've got retarded aloggers stealing SSNs and credit cards, and hacking into DSP's bank account.

The big difference between the sharty and kiwifarms is that kiwifarms acts like they are against raiding.

I assume that the rules against cowtipping (interacting with the lolcows) are just Null trying to cover his ass, rather than trying to prevent harassment.
Those rules seem like a pretense. I can show you many examples of Null noticing and ignoring people cowtipping.

Null is not impartial, and it's not just the userbase doing this. He plays a pretty active role in his community. He's won most of the lawsuits filed against him, because they were made by morons. I wonder how much section 230 would actually protect him against a smarter person.

Chud Wed 29 Mar 2023 03:54:14 No.39014 Report

Quoted By: >>39021 >>39040

Chud Wed 29 Mar 2023 04:30:44 No.39017 Report

Section 230 does have some exceptions:
https://itif.org/publications/2021/02/22/exceptions-section-230-how-have-courts-interpreted-section-230/

Chud Wed 29 Mar 2023 06:12:47 No.39020 Report

Quoted By: >>39030

>>38975
it is banned on kiwi farms doe, if you go on there and suggest actually doing something to someone (sending 'za, for example) you WILL be banned and they WILL try to dox you for being le heckin' a-log

Chud Wed 29 Mar 2023 06:18:06 No.39021 Report

Quoted By: >>39031

>>39014
it is only to cover null's ass but they are actually against raiding to an autistic level. I think josh doesn't give a shit, he just deletes it and bans the poster when it catches his attention, but kiwitroons are so autistic that they'd dox you if you even said hi to one of their lolcows

Chud Wed 29 Mar 2023 20:32:23 No.39030 Report

>>39020
>it is banned on kiwi farms doe, if you go on there and suggest actually doing something to someone (sending 'za, for example) you WILL be banned and they WILL try to dox you for being le heckin' a-log
Nope, you probably won't be banned for that. .

Chud Wed 29 Mar 2023 20:36:56 No.39031 Report

Quoted By: >>39033

>>39021
>it is only to cover null's ass but they are actually against raiding to an autistic level. I think josh doesn't give a shit, he just deletes it and bans the poster when it catches his attention,
Null doesn't delete the posts or ban the users, EVEN when he notices it.

>but kiwitroons are so autistic that they'd dox you if you even said hi to one of their lolcows
This is true. They've doxxed normies, just because they briefly interacted with one of their lolcows. I don't know if its exactly common, but it's happened.

Chud Wed 29 Mar 2023 20:45:24 No.39032 Report

>>39010
>keffals
>she

Chud Wed 29 Mar 2023 21:08:13 No.39033 Report

Quoted By: >>39042

>>39031
>Null doesn't delete the posts or ban the users, EVEN when he notices it.

For example, this one guy's made multiple blackmail threats against DSP:
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/darksydephil-fan-general.40930/page-30%23post-6354756
3 years later, he's still trying to threaten DSP:
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/designated-whiner-shitting-street.37975/page-183%23post-15270668
Null shouted at him, but he's not banned at all. He's still active.

A guy boasts about having sex with some'cow, null sees it and doesnt care:
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kat-speculation.46010/page-265%23post-10465670

There's many other examples as well. Cant be assed to find 'em

Chud Wed 29 Mar 2023 23:04:15 No.39035 Report

Quoted By: >>39036

Fixed the links

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/darksydephil-fan-general.40930/page-30%23post-6354756

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/designated-whiner-shitting-street.37975/page-183%23post-15270668

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kat-speculation.46010/page-265%23post-10465670

Chud Wed 29 Mar 2023 23:05:06 No.39036 Report

>>39035
disregard that i suck cocks

Chud Thu 30 Mar 2023 00:21:18 No.39040 Report

Quoted By: >>39042

>>39014
Idk, the only instance I can think of recently of being ambivalent towards cow tipping was not decrying Ethan Ralph getting beaten up in Portugal the second time. But he was only really unconcerned with it because Ralph intentionally goes out of his way to fuck with people and doesn't have any standards, so this is sort of the end result of his own behaviour.
I'm sure you could decry some stuff as hypocritical, but usually Josh talks openly about being against people who are irrationally angry about a cow and, more important, trying to justify what they do. So people who go after Wings or DSP or even Patrick Tomlinson.

Chud Thu 30 Mar 2023 00:46:29 No.39041 Report

Quoted By: >>39101

there was one time where null told people to go harass someone

He then walked it back as a joke, when his users asked him about it.

Thing is i can't find where he did this. and i dont really remember the context

Chud Thu 30 Mar 2023 00:48:32 No.39042 Report

>>39040
If we are talking about DSP, kf has had users post about hacking into that guys bank account
and the stuff mentioned here: >>39033
Null didn't really do anything about that at all.

Chud Fri 31 Mar 2023 21:10:02 No.39098 Report

BUMO

Chud Fri 31 Mar 2023 23:04:53 No.39101 Report

Quoted By: >>39116

>>39041
was this a long time ago? if so it doesnt count. hes changed a lot since 2015 and has the foresight and 'values' to likely not do that shit today.

Chud Sat 01 Apr 2023 17:53:12 No.39116 Report

>>39101
It was much more recent that 2015. I saw the post in 2019 or 2020 i think.

Chud Sat 01 Apr 2023 23:12:06 No.39132 Report

Quoted By: >>39134

>>38970

This thread explains it:

https://soyjak.party/raid/thread/32120.html%23q32121

https://soyjak.party/publichouse.html

no idea what the laws on itnernet harassment in northern cyprus are tho

Chud Sat 01 Apr 2023 23:20:08 No.39134 Report

>>39132

>The "Public House" policy is a term from KolymaNET used to describe services which are widely used by the public without restriction, checkpoints, or registrations. These websites are public infrastructure, used by any two or more parties to communicate with each other across the internet.

>By the nature of this system, very little can be done to stop illegal or unauthorized activity from taking place. Only retro-active action can be done to minimize the damage, remove the offending items or materials, and track the perpetrator. Pro-active abuse prevention would interfere with our goal of providing a service for public communication, and is thus, practiced only in small amounts.

>In this website, each user is responsible for their own actions. All text, images, videos, and other media distributed by the user is the responsibility of the user who uploaded it. Nothing on this site, aside from the tools which are used to patrol it, belongs to or can be attributed to the Administration. It is a library of publicly-submitted, and publicly-audited materials.

>Before continuing with your use of this website, you should be aware of the responsibility you bear for the posts or threads you create.

The issue with the policy comments on prevention are that the mere existance of a raid board encourages raiding, and the moderation is aware that the raids aren't "mostly peaceful".
but since this is hosted in russia noone probably gives a shit lol

Here is the hosts policy
https://www.kolyma.net/policy/

Chud Tue 04 Apr 2023 23:19:34 No.39216 Report

benis

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Chud Wed 05 Apr 2023 20:28:09 No.39243 Report

too retarded to make a thread so i'll leave this here.
comfychan.org asleep at the wheel. now is the time if you want an entire chan to yourself.

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