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Chud ID:E^aNspmD Sun 08 Nov 2026 14:08:46 No.4326018

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New Ben Garrison

Colorjak Sun 08 Nov 2026 14:12:23 No.4326031 Report

zyklon ben version when?

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Chud ID:hd5xlZoJ Sun 08 Nov 2026 14:14:27 No.4326035

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there is no heaven

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Chud ID:rnhH7TiZ Sun 08 Nov 2026 14:16:48 No.4326047

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>making no sense

# ID:jeFBgVYt Sun 08 Nov 2026 14:29:44 No.4326081

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>>4326018
retarded argument fuck off seamonkey.

>WHY DOESNT GOD MAKE EVERYTHING LE GOOD. I DONT WANT TO SUFFER I DONT WANT PAIN I DONT WANT TO BE A HUMAN BEING. I WANT TO BE WITTLED INTO NOTHING MORE THEN A SLAVE WHO IS KEPT OBEDIENT THROUGH DRUGS, SEX, AND INDECENCY. I DONT WANT TO BE A HUMAN I WANT TO BE AN ANIMAL WHY HAS GOD MADE IT HARD FOR ME
this is how atheistcucks sound

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Colorjak Sun 08 Nov 2026 14:33:21 No.4326096 Report

zyklon ben version

Chud ID:rnhH7TiZ Sun 08 Nov 2026 14:36:34 No.4326108

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God does not owe you mercy.

Chud ID:8rJhgqRc Sun 08 Nov 2026 14:43:25 No.4326126

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Sometimes, i wonder how god would react when i finally being judged and i start speaking as snarky snapy 'teen since this site lobotomized to the point not knowing to have normal conversation without being very carefull or something along these lines

Chud ID:ra18So4R Sun 08 Nov 2026 14:43:51 No.4326127

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>Why doesn't God make everything heaven
Because we have free will, and many people do not deserve to go there, you retard.

Chud ID:ra18So4R Sun 08 Nov 2026 14:45:16 No.4326129

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Also the story of Adam and Eve literally explains why the world can't be good and perfect. Humans will either get bored and start trouble out of nothing or go extinct.
The mouse utopia experiment demonstrates this on practice.

Chud ID:8rJhgqRc Sun 08 Nov 2026 14:55:44 No.4326158

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>>4326129
Even doe this comparision makes no sense

LesothosRapistOfTheYear !!L.f7sIOYRA ID:rQtrzIFy Sun 08 Nov 2026 15:00:40 No.4326175

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You are misunderstanding of what christians mean by free will and heaven. Free will doesn't require the ability to commit evil. God has free will, yet God cannot sin. Likewise, christians believe that those in heaven retain their freedom but are no longer enslaved by sin. Being incapable of wanting evil isn't the same as being forced to do good. The argument assumes that christians believe every single evil in history was necessary and therefore justified while that's not what christianity teaches, God allowing something to happen doesn't mean He approves of it or couldn't have prevented it. Just becaue God permitted something doesn't mean it's justified. Bible states multiple times that things can be unjust or that the world we live in can be cruel. If God made a world where nothing bad could happen he'd just create a mouse utopia
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2nd point that I want to attack is your argument about developing our souls. Earthly life isn't necessarily about passing some test to earn heaven. It's about making choices, forming relationships, experiencing love, hardship, bunch of other things and freely responding to God. The the question about children ignores that christianity has never required someone to reach adulthood or experience suffering to be saved. Asking why God doesn't simply create Heaven from the beginning misunderstands the christian view of creation. Christianity doesn't teach that God created humanity because He needed to test us. It teaches that He created us out of love, with the intention of sharing existence and communion with him.
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The biggest problem with the entire chart is that it assumes that if God permits suffering, then either suffering must be necessary or God is unjust, that in itself is an assumption but you just worded it like its some kind of a conclusion. You can certainly question why God permits particular evils, and the problem of evil is a serious philosophical question. However your chart doesn't solve it or disproves any christian belief. You present your objections like they are logical contradictions rather than what they are, objections.

Chud ID:mZxSba6o Sun 08 Nov 2026 15:00:56 No.4326176

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Guys, read the OP, it's not the epicurean paradox, you're all replying to it as if it were.

Chud ID:ra18So4R Sun 08 Nov 2026 15:01:21 No.4326180

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>>4326158
Explain how

RomaniaFirstNationalist !ozOtJW9BFA ID:JMsmNbca Sun 08 Nov 2026 15:03:14 No.4326187

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>>4326175
good breakdown

Chud ID:CXpt62VF Sun 08 Nov 2026 15:04:24 No.4326192

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>>4326158
even doe mouse utopia is what happens when there's no bad things happening and everyone gets food and freedom

Chud ID:424p8ueb Sun 08 Nov 2026 15:05:12 No.4326195

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>>4326176
No

LesothosRapistOfTheYear !!L.f7sIOYRA ID:rQtrzIFy Sun 08 Nov 2026 15:05:37 No.4326196

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>>4326187
Thank you

Chud ID:424p8ueb Sun 08 Nov 2026 15:08:05 No.4326203

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>what about le baby?
1 Peter 4:6
For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit

Chud ID:424p8ueb Sun 08 Nov 2026 15:10:56 No.4326211

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You wrote all dis? You could be a lawyer, I'm not joking

Chud ID:424p8ueb Sun 08 Nov 2026 15:16:25 No.4326233

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What is your counter gaythiests? If the dead are preached the gospel, and have the opportunity to believe or not, even your false understanding of Christianity "gotcha" graph STILL doesn't make sense.

LesothosRapistOfTheYear !!L.f7sIOYRA ID:rQtrzIFy Sun 08 Nov 2026 15:21:44 No.4326255

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>>4326211
Funnily enough I've been thinking about law school since i have relatives who are succesful lawyers but I chose to study history. As if I wrote all this, well I did but about half of it is just what I heard from Christian scholars.

Chud ID:424p8ueb Sun 08 Nov 2026 15:24:38 No.4326268

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>>4326255
Every good lawyer knows history. But so do consultants, which you could also be, especially since you have relatives that are successful lawyers

Chud ID:8rJhgqRc Sun 08 Nov 2026 15:45:01 No.4326337

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>>4326129
>>4326180
Unlike the rat experiment, Adam and Evee didn't get bored to of their lives cuz they had everything in a paradise the sole reason they lost everything is they got decived by the snake breaking the only rule imposed on them by god not to eat from the tree, only after eating from apple sin and other impeferction entered on Adam and Evee becoming flawed in nature.

Chud ID:8rJhgqRc Sun 08 Nov 2026 15:45:18 No.4326339

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>>4326337
Or something a long these lines

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Chud ID:8rJhgqRc Sun 08 Nov 2026 15:52:32 No.4326377

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>>4326180
Unlike the rat experiment, Adam and Evee didn't get bored out of their lives in the garden the sole reason they lost everything is they got decived by the snake breaking the only rule imposed on them by god not to eat from the tree, only after eating from apple sin and other impeferctions entered on Adam and Evee becoming flawed in nature. I understand why you wanted to compare but it doesn't make sense from a stand point that adam and even had pure nature(before eating apple ) where they didn't even knew the existence of sin and heinous acts or somethkng along these lines.

Chud ID:mZxSba6o Sun 08 Nov 2026 15:55:18 No.4326392

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>>4326377
esl.

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jiru99 ID:J3xnzGWm Sun 08 Nov 2026 17:40:44 No.4326977

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We have free will in heaven but cince were in the presence of god 24/7,we wont sin

noctuleanbob !hJCdl/gv2U ID:vCaim22n Sun 08 Nov 2026 17:43:00 No.4326996

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pedophile thread …fhrd

noctuleanbob !hJCdl/gv2U ID:vCaim22n Sun 08 Nov 2026 17:44:52 No.4327007

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sage sage sage op likes kids

noctuleanbob !hJCdl/gv2U ID:vCaim22n Sun 08 Nov 2026 17:45:04 No.4327009

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op is a future terrorist because he is a pedophile

noctuleanbob !hJCdl/gv2U ID:vCaim22n Sun 08 Nov 2026 17:45:20 No.4327012

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@police op likes kids and is going to shoot up a school

noctuleanbob !hJCdl/gv2U ID:vCaim22n Sun 08 Nov 2026 17:45:30 No.4327014

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op fuck you

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