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Libertarians and optics ID:w0EnldyL Sat 07 Nov 2026 10:53:20 No.4319834

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Quoted By: >>4319846

>have no coherent solution for mass migration, islam, violent crime or housing crisis
>campaign on abolishing the most SNCA regulations and sucking up to multinationals nobody likes and the most absurd pedantic policies
>prioritise strict rules over context 100% of the time
>no aesthetic, zero aura (important for any modern political movement)
>focus on winning debates and talking about how high IQ they are like a bunch of redditors instead of appealing to any emotion
>does not maintain any relevance, only moderately successful form is repackaged US conservatism that half of libertarians don't even support
>cannot agree what the NAP even is about
>surprised authoritarian rightists get more votes
How the fuck are libertarians so dogshit at optics? how are they so retarded?

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Chud ID:uUDlNJVB Sat 07 Nov 2026 11:01:53 No.4319846

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>>4319834
>but saaar blacked ass actually has aura o algo *BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP*

Chud ID:eFS4aStf Sat 07 Nov 2026 11:02:46 No.4319847

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Quoted By: >>4319865

>have no coherent solution for mass migration, islam, violent crime or housing crisis
The second and third issue can be merged into the first, partially the last one too. Anyway I'd say the main reason for mass migration is the need to support the massively inefficient public pension system. This problem can be solved by using private pension systems and therefore not leeching on younger generations
>campaign on abolishing the most SNCA regulations and sucking up to multinationals nobody likes and the most absurd pedantic policies
The regulations are important but novoter cares about finer economic policy
>prioritise strict rules over context 100% of the time
>no aesthetic, zero aura (important for any modern political movement)
>focus on winning debates and talking about how high IQ they are like a bunch of redditors instead of appealing to any emotion
>does not maintain any relevance, only moderately successful form is repackaged US conservatism that half of libertarians don't even support
>cannot agree what the NAP even is about
Yeah this.

Chud ID:0T!Q7iOk Sat 07 Nov 2026 11:14:15 No.4319865

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Quoted By: >>4319955

>>4319847
>Anyway I'd say the main reason for mass migration is the need to support the massively inefficient public pension system. This problem can be solved by using private pension systems and therefore not leeching on younger generations
Billioneirs support mass migration to destroy local workforce unionisation and to supress wages, which would still be an incentive in a lolbertarian state
Pension system is fucking retarded doebeit

Chud ID:0T!Q7iOk Sat 07 Nov 2026 11:14:40 No.4319867

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*billionaires

Chud ID:vci7w0!0 Sat 07 Nov 2026 11:41:18 No.4319942

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Quoted By: >>4321427 >>4321430 >>4321445

>>have no coherent solution for mass migration, islam, violent crime or housing crisis
Don't give free gibs to niggers in the first place, you'd get less migration.
>>campaign on abolishing the most SNCA regulations and sucking up to multinationals nobody likes and the most absurd pedantic policies
Like the zoning and housing laws? That shit skyrocketing the price of homes but somehow it's snca.
>>prioritise strict rules over context 100% of the time
Dunno what that means since market actors are basically free to pursue what they want and make their own rules in libertarianism.
>>no aesthetic, zero aura (important for any modern political movement)
You want just another fashionable tranny parade.
>>focus on winning debates and talking about how high IQ they are like a bunch of redditors instead of appealing to any emotion
Like the commies, except reddit commies do try appeal emotionally.
>>does not maintain any relevance, only moderately successful form is repackaged US conservatism that half of libertarians don't even support
Shit I don't care about.
>>cannot agree what the NAP even is about
Agreed, because it's not even that important for libertarian arguments despote how much people stress it, NAP is just moralfaggotry and you can't really respect it 100% of the times.
>>surprised authoritarian rightists get more votes
People always go for more violence whenever they need shit done nowdays, doesn't mean it's effective or justified always.

Chud ID:vci7w0!0 Sat 07 Nov 2026 11:47:25 No.4319955

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>>4319865
>Billioneirs support mass migration to destroy local workforce unionisation and to supress wages
Depends from the type of migration, if you let the most desperate third world faggot who would work for pennies that would be good for them, but so is your local population assuming the context of a libertarian society is no welfare at all. Also immigration could also be seen as a threat from how easy a migrant can set a competitive shop against these corpos.

Chud ID:uUDlNJVB Sat 07 Nov 2026 15:29:15 No.4320676

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leaky leaky shitalalalallalalalalalalian libertard

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Chud ID:dpSyaJER Sat 07 Nov 2026 17:15:31 No.4321427

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>>4319942
>Don't give free gibs to niggers in the first place, you'd get less migration.
Unfathomably true, but libertarians are too cucked to remigrate anyone or undo any damage. Libertarians would pass at the opportunity to deport millions cause it violates their sacred NAP or whatever. Also forgot to mention but how would libertarians make the cost of raising a child any cheaper? That could be the #1 issue right now. Keep in mind that immigrants will still likely be there for cheap labour like they are in the Middle East, but they'll be in a slave caste which is preferable to the current system I guess

>Like the zoning and housing laws? That shit skyrocketing the price of homes but somehow it's snca.
Building costs are too high in the first world but they're really not the only factor, plus private equity will still buy up homes.

>Dunno what that means since market actors are basically free to pursue what they want and make their own rules in libertarianism.
Libertarians would scoff at the most well-developed, wealthy crime-free ethnostate imaginable because it holds a monopoly on violence or whatever. At the same time, they advocate for stupid bullshit like buying and selling children out of principle. The privately owned nukes meme just kind of shows how absurd it can go, it'd be sick don't make me lie but I've never actually heard a libertarian argument against it that made any sense.

>You want just another fashionable tranny parade.
The average person will happily vote based on flashing colours and aesthetics need to be at the forefront of any national revival movement.

>Like the commies, except reddit commies do try appeal emotionally.
Learn from your opponent

>>does not maintain any relevance, only moderately successful form is repackaged US conservatism that half of libertarians don't even support
>Shit I don't care about.
well you're not gonna get anywhere. I don't even mind american libertarianism too much the sovereign citizen movement is pretty okay

>Agreed, because it's not even that important for libertarian arguments despote how much people stress it, NAP is just moralfaggotry and you can't really respect it 100% of the times.
The NAP is a very dumb and reductionist form of moralfaggotry. Libertarianism makes zero sense without any form of moralfagging

>People always go for more violence whenever they need shit done nowdays, doesn't mean it's effective or justified always.
I think thousands of history has shown that it is indeed effective. More effective at achieving change and winning the hearts and minds of the masses than watching some random Jewish man debate people for 3 hours
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3. "Abolish food safety regulations but fail to stop immigration" is not

Chud ID:xt!hEbwU Sat 07 Nov 2026 17:16:51 No.4321430

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>>4319942
>>4319955
imagine being a shitalian lolbertpedo because you're afraid to be a heccin' nazi geg

Chud ID:JVoEV3mj Sat 07 Nov 2026 17:17:04 No.4321434

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methinks it's retards that are indoctrinated by billionaires since lolbertism only helps the ultra rich

Chud ID:dpSyaJER Sat 07 Nov 2026 17:18:23 No.4321445

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>>4319942
>Don't give free gibs to niggers in the first place, you'd get less migration.
Unfathomably true, but libertarians are too cucked to remigrate anyone or undo any damage. Libertarians would pass at the opportunity to deport millions cause it violates their sacred NAP or whatever. Also forgot to mention but how would libertarians make the cost of raising a child any cheaper? That could be the #1 issue right now. Keep in mind that immigrants will still likely be there for cheap labour like they are in the Middle East, but they'll be in a slave caste which is preferable to the current system I guess

>Like the zoning and housing laws? That shit skyrocketing the price of homes but somehow it's snca.
Building costs are too high in the first world but they're really not the only factor, plus private equity will still buy up homes.

>Dunno what that means since market actors are basically free to pursue what they want and make their own rules in libertarianism.
Libertarians would scoff at the most well-developed, wealthy crime-free ethnostate imaginable because it holds a monopoly on violence or whatever. At the same time, they advocate for stupid bullshit like buying and selling children out of principle. The privately owned nukes meme just kind of shows how absurd it can go, it'd be sick don't make me lie but I've never actually heard a libertarian argument against it that made any sense.
"Abolish food regulations, put your trust in multinationals that harvest your data and profit off inventing up fake mental illnesses to sell you estrogenics, and do absolutely nothing about brown people" is also not appealing to really anyone

>You want just another fashionable tranny parade.
The average person will happily vote based on flashing colours and aesthetics need to be at the forefront of any national revival movement.

>Like the commies, except reddit commies do try appeal emotionally.
Learn from your opponent

>>does not maintain any relevance, only moderately successful form is repackaged US conservatism that half of libertarians don't even support
>Shit I don't care about.
well you're not gonna get anywhere. I don't even mind american libertarianism too much the sovereign citizen movement is pretty okay

>Agreed, because it's not even that important for libertarian arguments despote how much people stress it, NAP is just moralfaggotry and you can't really respect it 100% of the times.
The NAP is a very dumb and reductionist form of moralfaggotry. Libertarianism makes zero sense without any form of moralfagging

>People always go for more violence whenever they need shit done nowdays, doesn't mean it's effective or justified always.
I think thousands of history has shown that it is indeed effective. More effective at achieving change and winning the hearts and minds of the masses than watching some random Jewish man debate people for 3 hours

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Chud ID:dpSyaJER Sat 07 Nov 2026 17:18:56 No.4321448

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I meant to attach an epic zip to this but I forgot, so here have it

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Chud ID:E4zabzke Sat 07 Nov 2026 17:21:16 No.4321461

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