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Chud ID:C4mW97oJ Sat 31 Oct 2026 23:12:29 No.4290086

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Quoted By: >>4290518 >>4290746

Still blows my mind how absurdly pathetic indians are in every way. Like how the fuck are these creatures real and considered human. Their greatest accomplishments are sitting in slave-wage jobs their whole lives until they keel over and die.
>Highest streets shitted per capita saar

Chud ID:Q0vO8O7l Sat 31 Oct 2026 23:20:32 No.4290120

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now wait for the thread get filled with jeet worshippers or POSSIBLY even actual jeets or people pretending to be jeets

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Colorjak Sat 31 Oct 2026 23:20:40 No.4290122 Report

Quoted By: >>4290485

>Still blows my mind how absurdly pathetic indians are in every way. Like how the fuck are these creatures real and considered human. Their greatest accomplishments are sitting in slave-wage jobs their whole lives until they keel over and die.
>>Highest streets shitted per capita saar

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Chud ID:aNkGqm96 Sat 31 Oct 2026 23:41:01 No.4290181

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>>Still blows my mind how absurdly pathetic indians are in every way. Like how the fuck are these creatures real and considered human. Their greatest accomplishments are sitting in slave-wage jobs their whole lives until they keel over and die.
>>>Highest streets shitted per capita saar

Chud ID:Ln1XKiGB Sat 31 Oct 2026 23:48:38 No.4290204

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Quoted By: >>4290208

And to top it all off they've deluded themselves into thinking they're Aryan. Just pathetic.

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Uncle Basheer ID:YJxZITvQ Sat 31 Oct 2026 23:50:10 No.4290208

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>>4290204
Say what you like about jeets being weak and eating shit, but you will literally never be aryan.

Chud ID:aNkGqm96 Sat 31 Oct 2026 23:51:59 No.4290209

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>>>4290204
>Say what you like about jeets being weak and eating shit, but you will literally never be aryan.

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Uncle Basheer ID:YJxZITvQ Sat 31 Oct 2026 23:53:04 No.4290211

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>but saar we raped them
You got raped by a different branch of steppe people that raped them (Corded ware raped you, Sintashta raped them), and you got raped way harder. That doesn't make you Aryan
Sintashta and their direct descendants are aryan. Even if you are technically genetically closer. A person can be genetically closer to their neighbor than their own son, and that doesn't mean the neighbor inherits the name.

Uncle Basheer ID:YJxZITvQ Sat 31 Oct 2026 23:55:17 No.4290216

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And I'm talking about India, in the case of Iran, the people who spread Indo-Iranian languages in the Iranian Plateau were less than or around 25% steppe to begin with, more than 60% BMAC.
Yaz culture. They are genetically closer to modern Khorasani Iranians than anyone else

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Chud ID:Ln1XKiGB Sat 31 Oct 2026 23:56:01 No.4290218

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>>>4290204 (You)Say what you like about jeets being weak and eating shit, but you will literally never be aryan.

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Chud ID:Ln1XKiGB Sat 31 Oct 2026 23:57:21 No.4290221

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Quoted By: >>4290237 >>4290240

The sooner pajeets are removed from the Earth, the better.

Chud ID:yMMYscDA Sat 31 Oct 2026 23:57:43 No.4290223

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>>4290208
But I dont think op ever said hes aryan
Just that jeets call themselves aryans

Uncle Basheer ID:YJxZITvQ Sun 01 Nov 2026 00:02:04 No.4290235

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>>4290223
It's clear that he's implying he's Aryan
And pajeets are in fact Aryan, whether one likes it or not. Not my fault you glorified the term

Chud ID:RUopS9sO Sun 01 Nov 2026 00:04:36 No.4290237

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>>4290221
Actually the closer and more related brother people to Proto-Indo-Iranics are Balto-Slavs (and the ancient Proto-Balto-Slavs), both descend from the Middle Dnieper culture and share a common ancestor from they, as well descend from other Eastern CWC pops, both of this two lineages share a common ancestor which is R1a-Z645. The famous results on g25 which show North Germanics and Insular Celts as the closest modern populations is due to the equilibrium and distribution of components, mathematic algorytms and that shit, as well due to other factors.

Uncle Basheer ID:YJxZITvQ Sun 01 Nov 2026 00:06:45 No.4290240

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>>4290221
It's true that India was invaded and raped by steppe people, but they were not europeans. They are the branch known as Sintashta that travelled east, and they were the first people to call themselves Aryan. It took 1000 fucking years for them to get to india and by the time they did, they were already over 30% BMAC. When they entered Iran they were more than 60% BMAC, not even majority steppe anymore.

Keep in mind it took their sister branch only 500 years to take over and rape every single european until their paternal lineage went fucking extinct KEK. In reality, you are neither Aryan nor are you the same people that raped India, you are just a rapebaby of similar people,

Uncle Basheer ID:YJxZITvQ Sun 01 Nov 2026 00:08:16 No.4290244

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The truth is that the Dasa were actually so far superior to the European Farmers because they managed to not literally have 95% of their men killed and all their women raped. That happened, and modern white people are the result

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Chud ID:Ln1XKiGB Sun 01 Nov 2026 00:13:40 No.4290252

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Quoted By: >>4290266

Pajeet leakage above.
>We are arya- ACK!

Uncle Basheer ID:YJxZITvQ Sun 01 Nov 2026 00:18:23 No.4290266

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>>4290252
Your paternal lineage was quite literally raped into extinction in less than 500 Years
In particular, the indigenous English farmers (the same people who built stonehenge) had 90% of their men killed and all of the women raped only 400 years into the invasion, and you are the child. You are the rapebaby resulting from this mix.
A different branch of the same steppe people who did this to you tried to do it in India and Iran, and they failed before they even touched either. 1000 years in they were bogged down in modern day Turkmenistan and many of them settled. This is why they were already mixed by the time they entered India, and almost totally BMAC by the time they entered Iran

Uncle Basheer ID:YJxZITvQ Sun 01 Nov 2026 00:22:51 No.4290281

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Quoted By: >>4290286

in what's now called Turkmenistan was the Oxus civilization, the BMAC. They were mostly Zagrosian in origin and they were an advanced civilization. The Steppe people (who were now in Andronovo era) could not conquer them after hundreds of years, unlike the weak europeans who make up half of your autosomal DNA.

White people look fucking pathetic when they try to appropriate the achievements of their rapists, and still, by doing so, they demonstrate how inferior they are

Chud ID:wQ^Ow1TB Sun 01 Nov 2026 00:25:01 No.4290286

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>>4290281
At what point exactly do you get to larp as steppe in your book? If you have more than 50% Steppe EBA?

Uncle Basheer ID:YJxZITvQ Sun 01 Nov 2026 00:28:28 No.4290289

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>>4290286
nobody gets to larp as steppe because they are fucking extinct. All that's left are their rapechildren. Even if you are a nordic chad with 55% Yamnaya (very very high), you are still 45% raped.

If anything, it should be the people who defeated the steppeniggers that get to larp as them. The BMAC is who mostly defeated them, but they were mostly zagrosian so I suppose the Aryans in general can say so

Uncle Basheer ID:YJxZITvQ Sun 01 Nov 2026 00:31:04 No.4290295

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the Zagrosians really are the master race. 5000-3000 years ago this theory was tested. All of the hunter gatherers were mogged by the farmers of Anatolia and the Zagros. The Anatolians did agriculture and ate grains, the Zagrosians herded animals and ate mostly meat (this is also a reason why they are browner than ANF and EEF) and both had Steppe come challenge them. The europeans were BTFO'd so fucking hard, while the domain of the Zagrosians was mostly intact.

Chud ID:wQ^Ow1TB Sun 01 Nov 2026 00:33:03 No.4290297

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>>4290289
That makes very little sense if your whole culture and half of the genetix are steppoid derived. Would make more sense to identify with your direct yamnegro pateilinear ancestor than whatever substratum they absorbed along the way.

Chud ID:wQ^Ow1TB Sun 01 Nov 2026 00:34:14 No.4290300

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>>4290295
EEF lineages went extinct long before the steppe benchods came to evropa in favour of WHG lineages. Just saying.

Uncle Basheer ID:YJxZITvQ Sun 01 Nov 2026 00:36:55 No.4290304

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>>4290300
WHG had a small resurgence before then, but it's a delusional take that EEF lineages went extinct. They were still present, and dominant at that
>>4290297
Yes, we all identify with them, that is still why I am Aryan, but I am also Zagrosian. Europeans can't simply ignore the fact that they are over 50% farmer.

Uncle Basheer ID:YJxZITvQ Sun 01 Nov 2026 00:37:49 No.4290307

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Quoted By: >>4290314

like yes, we get it that you were raped harder, but it's still you getting raped at the end of the day. It being a pride point of yours and reducing your geoethnic background to "substratum that were absorbed" is just kind of pathetic.

Chud ID:wQ^Ow1TB Sun 01 Nov 2026 00:39:36 No.4290314

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>>4290307
>>4290304
Yeah, extinct was a hyperbole on my part. Nevertheless, late neolithic pipo were overwhelming I2 and probably I1 to some capacity too. G was very rare by the time of the IE invasion. Also i am 22% EEF. If that matters.

Uncle Basheer ID:YJxZITvQ Sun 01 Nov 2026 00:41:30 No.4290318

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Quoted By: >>4290323

and no, the whole culture wasn't steppe derived. Agricultural practices were kept, and for europe, that was a massive deal. In the case of the Aryans, a surprisingly large number of words are derived from Elamite-like and other zagrosian substrate languages. One case is our word from salt (which the Indians borrowed later on during the classical persian era)
>>4290314
>overwhelming I2 and probably I1
I mean maybe in some specific areas but definitely not the whole of europe. G was still dominant from what I know.
Hand over your coordinates sir

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Chud ID:wQ^Ow1TB Sun 01 Nov 2026 00:43:41 No.4290323

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>>4290318
I treat my G25 as personal information because i am a paranoid lil goyim. But you'll get my Qpadm.

Uncle Basheer ID:YJxZITvQ Sun 01 Nov 2026 00:50:19 No.4290333

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Quoted By: >>4290340 >>4290352

>>4290323
It isn't totally accurate to say you are 22% EEF. (aside from that being 23%)
You could say you're 23% ANF but EEF were already mixed ANF and WHG about 85-90% and 10-15% respectively. That would make you over 26% EEF.

Chud ID:wQ^Ow1TB Sun 01 Nov 2026 00:54:43 No.4290340

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>>4290333
Mayhaps. It is still pretty little and i don't care much for it. So i don't identify much with my EEF ancestors at all. I think HG admixture is a rather interesting context because it doesn't neatly map into the whole rape vs rapist dynamic you have been illustrating throughout this thread. I am also I2, make of that what you will.

Uncle Basheer ID:NqjqgREe Sun 01 Nov 2026 00:58:16 No.4290349

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>>4290340
The rape-rapist dynamic was mostly for dramatic effect and bait and the only way the britbong would understand what I mean.

I myself am J1. However I still call myself an Aryan. I do not think I'm white, but I reject the notion that there are any Aryans in Europe, by it's real definition. It's not much different than white people calling themselves Caucasian, and then saying they're more Caucasian than people from the Caucasus mountains

Chud ID:wQ^Ow1TB Sun 01 Nov 2026 00:59:15 No.4290352

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>>4290333
I wrote 22% because that's how i memorised it before whipping out dat image again. I didn'thave the exact decimal in mind. Pardon.

Chud ID:wQ^Ow1TB Sun 01 Nov 2026 01:00:16 No.4290353

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>>4290349
Technically speaking, to be pedantic, north ossetia is located in europe..

Chud ID:wQ^Ow1TB Sun 01 Nov 2026 01:03:09 No.4290369

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Quoted By: >>4290382 >>4290386

>>4290349
What u think of satem and centum? Wouldn't that make balto slavs and iranix somewhat close in genealogical relationship?

Immelmann ID:ccoK^Sj8 Sun 01 Nov 2026 01:03:38 No.4290371

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Uncle Basheer ID:NqjqgREe Sun 01 Nov 2026 01:06:11 No.4290382

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>>4290369
I'm not too sure about that but it is a weird quirk. Even the Tocharians were actually centum, so it points to the idea that it was a very early split.

Uncle Basheer ID:NqjqgREe Sun 01 Nov 2026 01:08:22 No.4290386

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>>4290369
I suppose it coincidences with the r1a and r1b split. Centum was the default and satem was a later innovation

Chud ID:wQ^Ow1TB Sun 01 Nov 2026 01:09:40 No.4290389

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>>4290382
Because balto slavs and indo iranics share a more recent ancestor than balts with germanix or italix for example. Hence why there is also a bunch of linguistic similarity. The lithuanian word for horse is the same as in sanskrit, baghdad means god given, does it not? It would be intelligible as such to most slavic speakers too. Semargl was part of Vladimirs pantheon in Kiev, Iranians had a similar creature by the name of Simorgh. Sounds all a bit schizo.

Uncle Basheer ID:NqjqgREe Sun 01 Nov 2026 01:12:07 No.4290398

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>>4290389
Yes Baghdad is identical to slavic Bogdan, and Simorgh is kind of a folklore creature more than a deity or divinity. I suppose this might have been partially the result of later interaction though
>>4290386
And by this I don't literally mean when the clades separated because that happened 20000 years ago

Uncle Basheer ID:NqjqgREe Sun 01 Nov 2026 01:13:44 No.4290402

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I mean the funny thing is that I can try to read Iron Ossetian and kind of get away with understanding a few words and even the gist of some sentences.

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Chud ID:wQ^Ow1TB Sun 01 Nov 2026 01:14:18 No.4290405

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Quoted By: >>4290425

>>4290398
Pretty interesting stuff

Uncle Basheer ID:NqjqgREe Sun 01 Nov 2026 01:22:47 No.4290425

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>>4290405
Persian: (aa= a as in father, otherwise a as in as)
Baraadar (Daadaash alternatively)
Maadar
Pesar
Aatish
Dokhtar
Khaahar
Cheshm
Gorg
Mard
Khoda (this one's complicated to explain but we have a word which is a fellow cognate: Div)

Chud ID:wQ^Ow1TB Sun 01 Nov 2026 01:26:28 No.4290432

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>>4290425
I know that later in Iran the Deva became evil and asura/ Ahura became good. This is similar with slavs where div became also a type of demon.

Uncle Basheer ID:NqjqgREe Sun 01 Nov 2026 01:27:03 No.4290434

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The word for God in Persian is complicated and it actually has a very interesting history.
Usually in modern speech most people say Khoda which is derived from the word "lord". In Islamic contexts Allah is also used sometimes (Arabic borrowing of course). Traditionally, in Zoroastrianism, a god is "Ahura" and the word for demon (still used today) is Div. >>4290432

Uncle Basheer ID:NqjqgREe Sun 01 Nov 2026 01:29:20 No.4290439

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>>4290432
Is that true that in slavs it also became demon? Because as far as I know Iranian languages, specifically the ones spoken amongst sedentary Iranians (not sakas) are the only languages which had this change where Deus/Zeus/Jupiter/Deva/Tyr came to mean Demon instead

From what I know this is specifically something Zoroaster himself introduced

Uncle Basheer ID:NqjqgREe Sun 01 Nov 2026 01:30:19 No.4290440

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Quoted By: >>4290449

In the ancient Iranian religion before Zoroastrianism, this change was not present. The flip happened with Zoroaster himself afaik.

If Slavs borrowed it it must have happened later if anything

Chud ID:wQ^Ow1TB Sun 01 Nov 2026 01:31:51 No.4290444

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>>4290439
Div is more like a malicious dark supernatural creature. It is very archaic and not commonly used though. Also thought on pic related (last sentence)?

Chud ID:wQ^Ow1TB Sun 01 Nov 2026 01:35:38 No.4290449

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>>4290440
I wouldn't know how that would come to be though. Eastern europe and iran weren't particularly tight in pre christian times to borrow something so niche.

Uncle Basheer ID:NqjqgREe Sun 01 Nov 2026 01:49:55 No.4290468

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Quoted By: >>4290473

>>4290444
"Arya" in Sintashta-descended language was specifically used as an ethnonym. I've never heard of an etymology like this, equating it to "possessor"
A malicious dark supernatural creature would probably be called a Jinn, but of course that comes later from Arabic.
dualism like Daeva and Asura I only know to exist in Indo-Iranic religions. Is it present in slavic ones?
>>4290449
According to AI, a leading theory is that it's from Scythian contact, which would make sense for something like Bog, but in Scythian religions Div still meant God, only sedentary Zoroastrian influenced Iranians switched, so I'm not sure

Chud ID:wQ^Ow1TB Sun 01 Nov 2026 01:55:31 No.4290473

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Quoted By: >>4290478 >>4290486

>>4290468
As i said previously, and my assessment as an amateur may not be worth much, but i have reasonable grounds to believe that Indo-Iranics and Balto-slavs share a common ancestor, likely immediately before the Fatyanovo culture came to be. That's how i imagine bunch of the similarities i mentioned came to be. Whether or not the word "arya" was used back then too is impossible to tell though. It's not something i am terribly concerned with. I tend to use aryan as a shorthand for satem speaker, i know that this is probably much to your dismay but it rolls of the tongue better.

Chud ID:wQ^Ow1TB Sun 01 Nov 2026 02:00:54 No.4290478

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>>4290473
As for the dualism, there is a concept of belobog vs chernobog. I don't know much about it though.

Colorjak Sun 01 Nov 2026 02:08:04 No.4290485 Report

>>4290122
this brown "french" faggot is still seething geg

Uncle Basheer ID:NqjqgREe Sun 01 Nov 2026 02:08:26 No.4290486

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>>4290473
I mean it might be the case that Indo-Iranics share a common ancestor with balto-slavs, and your timeline of before fatyanovo may be correct, but it would still be inaccurate to call balto-slavs Aryan. The first proven use of the term Aryan or any of its cognates was amongst the Sintashta. Both the Sintashta and the Fatyanovo, who are it's predecessors, carried the R1a subclade Z93, who's subclades are present in modern day Iran and India, among other places shown on the previous Aryan map. Slavs carry R1a-Z282 and it's subclades. Z282 is a sister clade of Z93, which would make your timeline correct, but not the use of the term Aryan.

Z93 does exist in low frequencies in eastern Europe, but it's likely from Scythian influence

Uncle Basheer ID:NqjqgREe Sun 01 Nov 2026 02:09:31 No.4290490

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>>4290478
If it has always used the term Bog, then that wouldn't support the theory of an independent split. It would probably be from Scythian influence as well

Uncle Basheer ID:NqjqgREe Sun 01 Nov 2026 02:11:08 No.4290492

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>>4290486
>or any of its cognates
Specifically to refer to their own group as an ethnonym. Its cognates in other Indo European languages usually means something roughly like noble or free man

Chud ID:wQ^Ow1TB Sun 01 Nov 2026 02:12:22 No.4290493

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>>4290486
I know, i know. Aryan is technically exclusive to the Indo-Iranics linguistically. But i would still like to see the Slavo-Iranic connection to be considered in such discussions sometimes. Because they are undoubtedly part of the same broader linguistic horizon.

Chud ID:BqB7n426 Sun 01 Nov 2026 02:20:30 No.4290518

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>>4290086
Bharat wonned you cvck

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Chud ID:447tzTxk Sun 01 Nov 2026 02:32:17 No.4290541

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Chud ID:kd2Ovgny Sun 01 Nov 2026 03:38:57 No.4290725

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Dead jeets lol

Chud ID:Qt3lKK7! Sun 01 Nov 2026 03:44:59 No.4290746

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>>4290086
Brapzilla wrestling me on the beach

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