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Chud ID:9M0SKUWJ Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:13:21 No.4249895

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Why does socialism refuse to die as an idea?

Colorjak Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:14:15 No.4249898 Report

>>4249895
bwc

Chud ID:bdRoUFN4 Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:24:29 No.4249920

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>>4249895
socialism is being kept alive by the bourgeoisie who constantly shill their retarded communism ideology, they do this, so they can 'relate' to poor/working class people

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Chud ID:HnzEAZBB Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:27:28 No.4249934

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Because the capitalists won't stop being even more retarded

Chud ID:JDIA7nct Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:32:46 No.4249960

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>>4249920
>socialism is being kept alive by the bourgeoisie

Are you ill? Do you have brain damage?

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Chud ID:XMzj1QqR Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:33:38 No.4249962

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maybe when poor people stop being poor they wont have to rely on it

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Chud ID:JDIA7nct Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:35:44 No.4249968

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>It is certain that stealing nourishes courage, strength, skill, tact, in a word, all the virtues useful to a republican system and consequently to our own. Lay partiality aside, and answer me: is theft, whose effect is to distribute wealth more evenly, to be branded as a wrong in our day, under our government which aims at equality? Plainly, the answer is no.

Chud ID:bdRoUFN4 Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:36:03 No.4249974

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>>4249960
no its just a truth, the modern socialist/communist are all rich people larping as poor people for the sake of internet points, you can see it with example like hasan

Chud ID:JDIA7nct Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:36:37 No.4249977

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>>4249974
>no its just a truth, the modern socialist/communist are all rich people
Really? I'm poor and I am a communist. I know lots of people who are the same as me

Chud ID:bdRoUFN4 Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:36:59 No.4249978

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>>4249977
what device are you using right now to write this?

Chud ID:JDIA7nct Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:37:38 No.4249982

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>>4249978
A windows PC

Even dalit jeets in india have PCs so you're not going to use le computer as evidence I am "rich"

Chud ID:bdRoUFN4 Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:38:32 No.4249984

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>>4249982
you're not poor retard, you still got a fucking pc

Chud ID:JDIA7nct Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:39:11 No.4249985

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>>4249984
>does exactly what I predicted you would do even though it makes zero sense

Dog with a Blog ID:cWsb!p8n Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:39:56 No.4249989

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>>4249982
This would be true for smartphones, even Sub Saharans have some sort of smartphone wirh internet, home desktop computers in Bharat are probably owned by less than 15% of the population.

Chud ID:bdRoUFN4 Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:39:59 No.4249992

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>>4249985
you're bringing jeet from the other side as a excuse of you larping as poor, if you were poor you wouldn't be talking shit here, and probably work in the coal mine like i did during my youth

Chud ID:JDIA7nct Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:41:04 No.4249994

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>>4249992
>and probably work in the coal mine like i did during my youth
How old are you? Btw I make $20000 a year, I am fucking poor

Chud ID:XMzj1QqR Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:41:11 No.4249996

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>>4249992
you worked in a coal mine? how was that lmfao

Chud ID:bdRoUFN4 Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:42:13 No.4250000

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>>4249996
what do you expect from coal mining bro, its just shit, thank god i move to france from my previous shithole country

Chud ID:XMzj1QqR Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:43:01 No.4250002

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>>4250000
idk i didnt really expect anything i just have never done it myself. almost did earlier this year but then i moved

Chud ID:bdRoUFN4 Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:43:03 No.4250003

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>>4249994
>Btw I make $20000 a year, I am fucking poor
thats still way more money than the average population you retarded privileged imbecile

Chud ID:JDIA7nct Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:43:58 No.4250007

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>>4250003
In America? No it isn't

Chud ID:bdRoUFN4 Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:44:20 No.4250011

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communism didn't work shit in my country, why should a child fucking work in some coal mine to feed themselves?

Chud ID:bdRoUFN4 Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:44:40 No.4250014

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>>4250007
you're probably spending daily on uber you retarded faggot

Chud ID:JDIA7nct Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:45:28 No.4250021

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>>4250014
I've never used uber or doordash in my entire life

Chud ID:bdRoUFN4 Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:46:55 No.4250028

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>>4250021
okay? and what your job and what do you to keep money?

Chud ID:JDIA7nct Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:47:29 No.4250030

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>>4250028
>okay? and what your job
I work at a gas station
>and what do you to keep money
Holy ESL

Chud ID:bdRoUFN4 Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:49:20 No.4250038

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>>4250030
>I work at a gas station
have you tried getting a better job?
>Holy ESL
yeah cause english isn't my first language, you americunt only know english and nothing else

Chud ID:XMzj1QqR Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:49:21 No.4250039

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>>4250030
why dont you move up in the world? trades are easy to come by and make significantly better money. hell ive been failing upwards my whole life doing this shit

Chud ID:JDIA7nct Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:50:07 No.4250042

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>>4250038
>have you tried getting a better job?
Now you're trying to shame poor people? lmao

Chud ID:bdRoUFN4 Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:50:14 No.4250043

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>>4250039
cause american are cuddled their whole life, and blame capitalism for their own laziness

Chud ID:bdRoUFN4 Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:50:42 No.4250045

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>>4250042
>said the faggot who had free education during his youth
yeah okay

Chud ID:JDIA7nct Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:50:46 No.4250046

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>>4250043
You're so full of shit and I hope you're eaten alive by africans someday

Chud ID:bdRoUFN4 Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:51:34 No.4250049

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>>4250046
i hope your country implement communism, then you'll see how dogshit it is

Chud ID:fUMURINh Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:51:38 No.4250050

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When people are unfortunately frustrated by certain consequences of capitalism they tend to be more accepting towards socialism

Chud ID:XMzj1QqR Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:51:40 No.4250052

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>>4250043
capitalism literally is what lets us not be stuck in poverty. fuckin cuck mentality from socialists is insane

Chud ID:fUMURINh Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:52:27 No.4250054

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Honestly the best way to limit socialism first and foremost is to tackle the shortcomings of capitalism with government intervention with regulations and such

Chud ID:bdRoUFN4 Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:53:06 No.4250056

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>>4250054
no, its to behead the rich faggots who spread this parasite of an ideology, then give it back to the community

Chud ID:ugkPVqrK Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:53:28 No.4250057

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Look man I am literally owed money where is my money where's my car it's not up for negotiation I'm here right here right now understand

Chud ID:fUMURINh Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:53:51 No.4250058

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>>4250056
Capitalism is far from perfect but its still a very solid ideology

Chud ID:ugkPVqrK Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:54:03 No.4250059

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How many times do I have to tell you I am literally older sum of money and a car right now it's not something I have to exaggerate I did all the work I deserve the money and it's a fact I'm not making this up how many times do I have to say this it's going to happen on my terms physically

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Dog with a Blog ID:cWsb!p8n Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:54:05 No.4250060

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>>4250054
Me, a marxist: Read a book, sigh.

Chud ID:bdRoUFN4 Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:54:37 No.4250064

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>>4250058
yeah there downside of capitalism, but a ideology (communism) where the state has the monopoly wtf is this shit?

Chud ID:XMzj1QqR Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:54:38 No.4250066

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>>4250057
who owes you money?

Chud ID:bdRoUFN4 Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:55:56 No.4250076

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>>4250060
communists when you ask them to read a history book

Chud ID:yFPh6akq Fri 23 Oct 2026 17:59:21 No.4250093

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pedpophilia makeess one lefty

Chud ID:jTWf1kqC Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:07:52 No.4250133

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>>4249895
Mostly int he word and it's definition, it's catchy and people want to be seen as caring about others, but most socialists are destructive to a capitalist society, also if they were truly socialists to the core, they would be doing charitable work and donating their profits to whatever cause they deem worthy. But they are actually capitalists, most of them anyway, and they enjoy profit and keep profits for themselves.

Chud ID:jTWf1kqC Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:09:06 No.4250142

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>>4249895
Mostly in the word and its definition, it's catchy and people want to be seen as caring about others, but most socialists are destructive to a capitalist society, also if they were truly socialists to the core, they would be doing charitable work and donating their profits to whatever cause they deem worthy. But they are actually capitalists, most of them anyway, and they enjoy profit and keep profits for themselves.

So we see that human nature preceedes the politics that people choose.

El Gaucho ID:zepQNG2Q Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:10:07 No.4250147

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because it's a good idea and you'd know if you had a brain

Chud ID:ZoJMILJQ Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:10:32 No.4250148

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>>4250147
you're only thinking of the nationalist kind

Chud ID:jTWf1kqC Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:10:53 No.4250153

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>>4250148
The real gaucho hates leftism.

Chud ID:KYESsgRn Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:11:22 No.4250155

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>>4249895
Becausr words cant die or something

El Gaucho ID:zepQNG2Q Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:11:25 No.4250157

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>>4250153

i've changed my ways and submitted to the BNWO

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Chud ID:q0sfOYGv Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:11:44 No.4250161

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State-capitalism sucks.

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Chud ID:ZoJMILJQ Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:12:41 No.4250163

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>>4250157
he is truly lost to us

Chud ID:yFPh6akq Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:12:54 No.4250165

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>>4250161
STATE CAPITALISM WON CORPORATISM WON ECONOMIC NATIONALIS WON!
>>4250157
>>4250147
>gaucho is black
>gaucho is socialist
>gaucho submits to the bnwo
stick to a script nigga kek how is a nigga gon submit to niggas?
is this like tutsi vs hutu shi?

Chud ID:ZoJMILJQ Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:13:53 No.4250169

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>>4250165
>how is a nigga gon submit to niggas?
this may come as a shock but the African slave trade started in africa

El Gaucho ID:zepQNG2Q Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:14:19 No.4250170

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>>4250165

because i am SPIRITUALLY black

Chud ID:yFPh6akq Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:15:50 No.4250175

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socialism as a system would be keyed if only implemented as a transactory way to get rid of the current borgiosie system in turn for the development of a new corporatist sytem ruled by a new economic social class
a reactionary socialism if you will, nationalize the private property of those currently ruling in this status quo to eventualy re-privatize and give to the hands of our compatriots and nationals
besides many reactionaries did call themselves socialists even if not under a strict heterodoxical marxist economicaly socialist lense
napoleon the third, mettersninch, benjamin disraeli, bismarck
all socialists
prussian socialism, national socialism
even fascism is somewhat a form of "socialism"
true i dislike socialism but as a system there are compatible ways of doing it

Chud ID:yFPh6akq Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:16:28 No.4250181

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>>4250169
yea but he is larping as a superior kang why would he submit to bbc if he is a pure blooded kang?
>>4250170
meds now my soul is 1000% charrua gauderio nativo do rincao

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Chud ID:q0sfOYGv Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:16:49 No.4250182

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>>4250175
Disraeli was a shylock.

El Gaucho ID:zepQNG2Q Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:17:20 No.4250183

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i am white but i feel my spirit is sub-Saharan honestly, so i can still submit to the bnwo because im not fully black

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Dog with a Blog ID:cWsb!p8n Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:22:10 No.4250205

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>>4250182
Never forget…

Chud ID:yFPh6akq Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:22:46 No.4250210

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>>4250182
gigajew doe

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Chud ID:q0sfOYGv Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:23:36 No.4250211

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>>4250210
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Chud ID:yFPh6akq Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:27:39 No.4250229

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>>4250183
> His father left Judaism after a dispute at his synagogue; Benjamin became an Anglican at the age of 11

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Chud ID:q0sfOYGv Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:31:54 No.4250243

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>>4250229
The Anglican Church is a political invention, not a real religion.

Chud ID:yFPh6akq Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:41:16 No.4250285

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>>4250243
even doe it is

Chud ID:yFPh6akq Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:43:29 No.4250298

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>In the reign of Edward VI (1547-1553), the Church of England underwent an extensive theological reformation. Justification by faith was made a central teaching.[25] Government-sanctioned iconoclasm led to the destruction of images and relics. Stained glass, shrines, statues, and roods were defaced or destroyed. Church walls were whitewashed and covered with biblical texts condemning idolatry.[26] The most significant reform in Edward's reign was the adoption of an English liturgy to replace the old Latin rites.[27] Written by the Protestant reformer archbishop Thomas Cranmer, the 1549 Book of Common Prayer implicitly taught justification by faith,[28] and rejected the Catholic doctrines of transubstantiation and the sacrifice of the Mass.[29] This was followed by a greatly revised 1552 Book of Common Prayer, which propounded a Reformed view of the Lord's Supper (cf. Lord's Supper in Reformed theology).[30] Along with The Book of Common Prayer, The Thirty-nine Articles and The Books of Homilies, assembled through the efforts of the reformer Thomas Cranmer, became the basis of Anglican doctrine after the English Reformation.[3]

Chud ID:C2wbscZu Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:46:34 No.4250310

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>>4249895
https://youtu.be/_-iIUtW5JVo
He explains it well.

Chud ID:4Np1l^zz Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:47:11 No.4250313

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>>4250028
this attitude is why Zoomers on both sides of the social political spectrum are abandoning capitalism in droves, old retarded fucks like you shutting your eyes and refusing to look at reality when the working White man is getting priced out of home from immigrant scabs and greedy corporations

Chud ID:4Np1l^zz Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:48:19 No.4250320

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>>4250049
I hope they do too because at least niggers like you would die in poverty along with us

El Gaucho ID:zepQNG2Q Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:53:26 No.4250335

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>>4250313

capitalism was made to oppress the global south, especially Africa
recently i've come into touch with my true self as i welcomed black culture into my heart, so as a spiritually black ethnically white Brazilian i think socialism is naturally preferable to people like me rather than oppressor ideologies

Chud ID:4Np1l^zz Fri 23 Oct 2026 18:55:36 No.4250352

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>>4250335
>words words words
if you're going to falseflag guacho at least say you're a valid anbrap xixter while doing it

El Gaucho ID:zepQNG2Q Fri 23 Oct 2026 19:00:04 No.4250382

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>>4250352

of course the oppressor can't accept the rejection of his ideology

Chud ID:Ke84qmoD Fri 23 Oct 2026 19:14:27 No.4250479

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>>4249895
The most concrete answer is that people need anything to fill the moral void that Christianity left them personally socially and societally

Chud ID:Ke84qmoD Fri 23 Oct 2026 19:15:51 No.4250492

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>>4250335
Why dont you guys all go back to your shit holes and stop obsessing over white people. Malcom x was the only respectable black leader and he wanted a black ethnostate away from whites

Chud ID:yFPh6akq Fri 23 Oct 2026 19:16:22 No.4250495

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>>4250492
its bait ignore it

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>>4250495
I know but still a lot of people think like that and still want to live in the west like leeches

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Chud ID:q0sfOYGv Fri 23 Oct 2026 19:19:14 No.4250521

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>>4250285
It's as authentic a religion as the Cult of Supreme Being.

yo dad becaus i fukced yo mamma ID:yFPh6akq Fri 23 Oct 2026 19:21:17 No.4250532

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>>4250521
YOURE RETARDED

Chud ID:Ke84qmoD Fri 23 Oct 2026 19:21:27 No.4250533

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>>4250521
You need fiction for a functional long term society and culture. People are not rational so they need both a fiction to follow and a moral enforcement arm to be materially incentivized to keep following. Kant believing that morality is rational is flawed as people are not rational and are akin to insectoids

Chud ID:4Np1l^zz Fri 23 Oct 2026 19:21:52 No.4250536

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>>4250479
But what if you are a Socialist Christian with MAGA and Jacobin aesthetics?

Chud ID:Ke84qmoD Fri 23 Oct 2026 19:24:21 No.4250552

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>>4250536
More then likely a irreligious person in practice while saying colorful words. I'm basically the same and I can handle the inherent meaninglessness of the universe when looked through a objective lens but most people cannot handle this and will give into hedonism nihilism and suicide when you say all they are is carbon that was heated up 10 billion years ago. Atheism is inherently impractical which is geggy

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Chud ID:q0sfOYGv Fri 23 Oct 2026 19:27:20 No.4250580

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>>4250532
Bonobo.
>>4250533
>Kant believing that morality is rational is flawed as people are not rational and are akin to insectoids
Objective ethics aren't contingent on all people being cognizant enough to apply them consistently.

Chud ID:Ke84qmoD Fri 23 Oct 2026 19:30:22 No.4250601

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>>4250580
Then it's not practical to introduce socially and is merely a interesting opinion. If Kant was in the know he would've said that our biology is flawed so the nurture of any worldview social education or philosophy cannot be executed accordingly and even if it is will slowly degrade and devolve into nothing over time. We must first fix our biology first through genetic engineering then introduce social education which is also flawed as we would be flawed people trying to use technology to fix ourselves which would almost certainly be used for evil

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Chud ID:q0sfOYGv Fri 23 Oct 2026 19:37:11 No.4250637

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>>4250601
Actually it is practical to apply socially. Natural laws exist, and social ontology is the means through which we uncover the natural ethical laws concerning man. If you believe we need a program of eugenics, fine, that is entirely compatible with neo-Aristotelian realism up to a point.

Chud ID:Ke84qmoD Fri 23 Oct 2026 19:42:55 No.4250686

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>>4250637
We don't need simply an improvement on the human form. We need an entirely new species completely anathema to current humanity. Perfection in flesh. Maybe it was practical during kants day but that is the flaw in his belief of morality is objective and born out of rational minds. People are not rational and will not care. You can study the social workings of ants or bees but it won't fix the inherent issues with any system. Maybe if could help one day build the moral foundations of a future better framework that could be introduced socially and enforced socially but I doubt that with current human biology. Also the word neo has been poisoned by neo liberals and neo cons geg

Chud ID:Ke84qmoD Fri 23 Oct 2026 19:44:35 No.4250706

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>>4250686
Also to add to this the power of Christianity died and even the secular humanist ideals are also losing social power to add further credibility to my point

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Chud ID:q0sfOYGv Fri 23 Oct 2026 19:49:32 No.4250748

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>>4250686
Again, you are mistaken in believing natural laws require perfect human beings. Natural laws are codified precisely because people opt to ignore them. They are the standard human behaviors ought to be held to, not human behavior in of itself.
>Also to add to this the power of Christianity died and even the secular humanist ideals are also losing social power to add further credibility to my point
These camps' falling influence is because of a longstanding positivist assault on the social sciences.

Chud ID:Ke84qmoD Fri 23 Oct 2026 19:59:30 No.4250812

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>>4250748
Ok so your arguing what we ought to do and the theory of it? Sure I can agree that their is objective morality but what's the point of it if we don't actually have means or ways to ensure they stick? If people only follow objective morality or hell ANY moral system for but a small few generations before falling into hedonism what's the point other then personal fulfillment? The thing all philosophers should be fighting is the flawed nature of our biology and not just the nurture. Maybe they couldn't imagine it in the past but we are on the cusp of fixing the only issue between us and true greatness. That maybe in a perfect world we can either try to end the dialectical cycle of history to find something that works or stay In our imperfection that is us. That is the only binary I see worth arguing about and arguing about forever. Imperfection vs perfection. We either keep on our naturally path of struggle sobriety decay and fall or we try to end the recursive loop. Also I agree on the positivist point but I think that sort of thinking only got popular because kings raped Christianity as a means to justify their rule

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Chud ID:q0sfOYGv Fri 23 Oct 2026 20:10:53 No.4250881

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>>4250812
>The thing all philosophers should be fighting is the flawed nature of our biology and not just the nurture.
I wholeheartedly agree.
>That maybe in a perfect world we can either try to end the dialectical cycle of history to find something that works or stay In our imperfection that is us. That is the only binary I see worth arguing about and arguing about forever. Imperfection vs perfection.
I think we must first ascertain the specific conditions holding back human virtue, conscience, and reason and then attempt to systematically annihilate what can be annihilated and mitigate what can't.

Chud ID:Ke84qmoD Fri 23 Oct 2026 20:14:47 No.4250904

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>>4250881
In the modern day for the last 100 years alone. Urbanism. Over reliance on technology. And neo liberalism. Step 1 is to completely overthrow the current society as it is the most vile system that is designed to kill hope kill change and ensure the status quo with not even competent leaders at the top. I would take any system as it would be better equipped for this type of discussion. Even communism or fascism weren't nearly as vile to attack hope and change itself like neo liberalism is

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Chud ID:s9zvJVYi Fri 23 Oct 2026 20:38:13 No.4251045

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It did die doe
All that's left of socialism in the West(and second world like latinX) is nigger-worshipping slightly more radical socdem parties larping as communist. Actual communists are extreme snca with few local council seats here and there with no real prospects.
You could argue it lives on in the third world, but firstly its even more embarassing for only 50 IQ jeets to believe in your ideology, and secondly third world "socialism" is just infinite gibs slopulism larping as anything bigger(as all ideologies in the third world are kek).
Claiming that China is socialist is extemely retarded, and isnt even worth going over btw

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Chud ID:s9zvJVYi Fri 23 Oct 2026 20:40:55 No.4251062

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>praising an irl jartycuck because he was heccin anti religion

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